lupusintabula ([info]lupusintabula) wrote,
2005-09-09 11:55:00

Day 4

The jarring Wolf howls of last night were comingled with crashes of lightning. The sun dawns as the weather breaks on the drenched hamlet. Slowly the Village comes together in the Town Square, slogging their way through muddy streets. When you realize the Smith and the Midwife are both missing, the tired mob makes their way to the smithy to search for [info]amphitrite27's corpse. Surprisingly searching through her house and workshop turns up nothing. Her door is unbarred, but in good order.

The group makes their way onward through the sodden streets to the cottage of the Midwife [info]pergatorigirl to find the door pulled off and thrown into the street. Inside is a grizzly scene! A large, curly haired hamster-like creature lies sprawled across a table, its head exploded. On the ground near the table, thrown carelessly and covered in blood, is a deck of Tarot cards. On the far wall is the ashen remains of the Midwife [info]pergatorigirl, destroyed by the gaze of the Werehamster!

Summary: [info]amphitrite27 the WEREHAMSTER is DEAD. [info]pergatorigirl the SEER is DEAD.

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[info]daedalus4096

September 9 2005, 19:20:01 UTC 6 years ago

Wow, that was unexpected... I suspected [info]pergatorigirl of being the hamster. It's unfortunate that she's gone, but at least she took the hamster down first! One curious thing, though... If the seer killed the hamster, and the hamster killed the seer, who did the wolf/wolves go after? Was someone saved last night?

[info]daedalus4096

September 9 2005, 19:21:13 UTC 6 years ago

Also, isn't this day 4 now? Or is it Groundhog Day? :)

[info]girlpurple

September 9 2005, 19:22:55 UTC 6 years ago

Right then... just to reveal how ignorant I am of all the game play...

So, Seer was killed by Werehamster
and since the Werehamster can't be killed except by lynching or being seen by the Seer, it was a mutual "attack"?

And the wolves fail again???

[info]lupusintabula

September 9 2005, 20:01:27 UTC 6 years ago

They killed eachother. No Werewolf kill.

[info]princeofwands

September 9 2005, 19:23:25 UTC 6 years ago

Okay - we've killed:
[info]amphitrite27, the WEREHAMSTER
[info]stride and [info]gnatdbug, WEREWOLVES.

We have one original WEREWOLF left. We have the possibility of the AFFLICTED (being) turned into a WEREWOLF.

That's it folks. That's all we've got to beat.

[GM: Please confirm how the AFFLICTED character, if turned, interacts (if at all) with the original WEREWOLVES. And assuming they don't get to, after the original WEREWOLVES are killed, we still have to kill the AFFLICTED, right? And do they get to continue killing each night if they're the only remaining WEREWOLF?]

I propose that the MASONS out themselves. They are two VILLAGERS that know one another's identity. If the remaining WEREWOLF and the AFFLICTED are in communication, they (working together) are the only remaining way to LIE and dispute that claim.

[info]princeofwands

September 9 2005, 19:36:49 UTC 6 years ago

(Additional logic behind my suggestion - the only special ability of the MASONS is to corroborate each other's claim. They're no more a target of the wolves than anyone else once outed. In fact, they're safer, since there's no special ability to try and remove from play. It's the same logic, btw, as outing myself as the CUPID, which I am. I can out either or both lovers. My truthful claim can only be disputed by disruptive wolves, and there aren't enough remaining to outweigh the defense of two real lovers. We've got three special character (but essentially plain) villagers here that can be identified, and are low risk targets.

That also sorta identifies the Hunter and Bodyguard (who have both already come out without dispute anyway though.)

My vote might be swayed by a convincing argument that we've misidentified the HUNTER or BODYGUARD before, or if the MASONS (who I'm sure I've identified since loosing the SEER) convince me that I'm guessing wrong here, but I think the only remaining characters that can be the AFFLICTED([info]daedalus4096) and the remaining WEREWOLF (VOTE [info]gpeefalt).

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[info]flipperchaz

September 9 2005, 19:35:58 UTC 6 years ago

Well here's what we got from the claim game:

Day1:
1. girlpurple is a wolf
2. herufeanor is a hampster
3. flipperchaz is a villager

Day2:
no claims

Day3:
1. amphitrie27 is a wolf
2. parzanese is a villager
3. girlpurple is a villager

We know 2 is out, since herufeanor was not the hamster. Could be 1 or 3. Interesting that on day 3 pergatorigirl voted for amphitrie27 right at the beginning of the day and never changed her vote, despite everything going on.

[info]daedalus4096

September 9 2005, 19:39:48 UTC 6 years ago

Okay, so assuming that she intended to exonerate Flipperchaz and Girlpurple, and comparing notes with the list of suspects that Parzanese has already shared, it seems to me that our three most likely suspects are Gpeefalt, Perkyevil, and Princeofwands. So, I'm going to go out on a limb here and pick one to start with...

Vote Perkyevil.

Discuss.

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[info]hungryandhollow

September 9 2005, 19:37:55 UTC 6 years ago

If the masons out themselves, then we have:

1) the werewolves claim to be masons also, and we have 4 potential werewolves - which we can easily kill in 3 lynchings total.
2) the werewolves do not claim to be masons, so we have 2 less suspects.

Also, am I correct in assuming the werewolves did not kill anyone last night?

[info]lupusintabula

September 9 2005, 19:50:44 UTC 6 years ago

No Werewolf kills last night.

[info]flipperchaz

September 9 2005, 19:50:45 UTC 6 years ago

And since [info]stride is no longer around:

[info]daedalus4096
[info]flipperchaz: HUNTER (cleared by the SEER)
[info]girlpurple: (cleared by the SEER)
[info]gpeefalt
[info]hungryandhollow
[info]kraydon: WITCH*
[info]parzanese
[info]perkyevil
[info]princeofwands: CUPID*

[info]pergatorigirl: DEAD SEER
[info]amphitrite27: DEAD HAMSTER
[info]stride: DEAD WOLF
[info]evilben: DEAD VILLAGER
[info]gnatdbug: DEAD WOLF
[info]herufeanor: DEAD VILLAGER
[info]pianorain: DEAD NADER
[info]the1mouse: DEAD MARTYR

*Not proven until death. Yadda yadda yadda...

[info]flipperchaz

September 9 2005, 19:56:54 UTC 6 years ago

Whoops, missed one...

[info]daedalus4096
[info]flipperchaz: HUNTER (cleared by the SEER)
[info]girlpurple: (cleared by the SEER)
[info]gpeefalt
[info]hungryandhollow: BODYGUARD*
[info]kraydon: WITCH*
[info]parzanese
[info]perkyevil
[info]princeofwands: CUPID*

[info]pergatorigirl: DEAD SEER
[info]amphitrite27: DEAD HAMSTER
[info]stride: DEAD WOLF
[info]evilben: DEAD VILLAGER
[info]gnatdbug: DEAD WOLF
[info]herufeanor: DEAD VILLAGER
[info]pianorain: DEAD NADER
[info]the1mouse: DEAD MARTYR

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[info]hungryandhollow

September 9 2005, 20:27:12 UTC 6 years ago

yea, i don't think we can do much until the masons out themselves. from there we can decide which of the 2 remaining peoples to lynch.

I'm also interested in why the werewolves didn't get a kill last night. Anyone want to shed some light on the subject?

[info]daedalus4096

September 9 2005, 20:30:21 UTC 6 years ago

Well, being the Bodyguard, you're the only one left who could save someone. So if you're not claiming to have saved anyone, that means they probably either attacked the hamster or triggered the afflicted.

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[info]hungryandhollow

September 9 2005, 21:07:29 UTC 6 years ago

Of the 4 left, 2 are masons and 2 are werewolves. So, own up, people.

daedalus4096
gpeefalt
parzanese
perkyevil

Even if it takes us 3 lynchings to figure it out, we can't lose (presuming that the wolves are, of course, among those two).

[info]parzanese

September 9 2005, 23:25:22 UTC 6 years ago

you are forgetting girlpurple who could be the afflicted and was turned last night . . . stride implied right before she died that I was wrong and she knew who the werehamster was . . . the only way she would know if if they attacked her on the second night . . . so assume the afflicted was turned last night in which case all seer data on normal villagers is already invalid . . .

[info]girlpurple

September 9 2005, 22:14:49 UTC 6 years ago

vote gpeefalt

Sorry dude... your immediate targeting of princeofwands looks WAY suspicious

[info]gpeefalt

September 9 2005, 22:30:10 UTC 6 years ago

Perhaps I was being rash with my vote. Inexperience perhaps.

I will
unvote princeofwands
and reserve my vote until later.

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[info]daedalus4096

September 9 2005, 22:44:56 UTC 6 years ago

After reviewing the evidence further, I have to agree that there isn't as much evidence against Perkyevil as I initially thought. With that being the case, I'm changing my vote to the next suspect on my list.

Unvote Perkyevil. Vote Gpeefalt.

[info]parzanese

September 9 2005, 23:16:30 UTC 6 years ago

I don't have much time, but I got the impression from stride that the wolves attacked the werehamster on night 2. Which means two wolves and three suspects:

daedalus4096
girlpurple
gpeefalt

one was the original wolf, one is the new wolf (and both don't know who they are yet), and one is a poor villager . . . oh and one is a lover of those not listed there (so one wolf might get screwed by the other wolf)

those are my only three suspects left . . . and I'll have to review my notes to make a best guess from the three of them . . .

[info]princeofwands

September 10 2005, 00:55:20 UTC 6 years ago

Two wolves. Three suspects.

And one of them is the afflicted who was turned last night, so old evidence doesn't help with that one.

Tough lot.

Interesting gamble claiming that only one of the three suspects is one of the lovers. Running out the permutations tree, I'm not sure what you think we got for that.

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[info]perkyevil

September 10 2005, 05:52:51 UTC 6 years ago

And today ends????

Just to confirm - the end of this 'day' is going to be Mon at 11am, right?

[info]lupusintabula

September 10 2005, 06:52:41 UTC 6 years ago

Re: And today ends????

You got it.

[info]parzanese

September 10 2005, 17:48:07 UTC 6 years ago

ok I was hoping to have the protection of the bodyguard tonight, but apparently since he protected me last night (thanks for that even though it screws with me today) I might as well tell you everything I suspect . . .

1) the afflicted was turned last night
2) the only "known" villager yesterday was girlpurple
3) the wolf targeted girlpurple hoping she was the afflicted and got lucky
4) girlpurple is the afflicted and is now a wolf
5) the wolves didn't attack the bodyguard last night, which would have been a prime target to attack
6) they also didn't attack any of the known villagers that we all mostly trust
7) instead they attacked someone who we still somewhat suspected: girlpurple
8) why would they do that when wolves would greedily eat the bodyguard as soon as they found him
9) the lone wolf remaining has been devious. He voted for gnatdbug who was really never in any real danger as so many of us townsfolk were voting for evilben
10) the lone remaining wolf voted for stride at the end when it was obvious that she was going to get lynched
11) the lone remaining wolf has a lover that he has been protecting
12) the lone remaining wolf has the majority of his seer claims as true and has been encouraging people on to produce claims so that he could try and identify the seer (with many of his claims as true I thought he might even be the seer)
13) the reason the bodyguard didn't die last night, the reason the wolf took a chance on a poor villager in an attempt to find the afflicted, was that the wolf couldn't attack the bodyguard since the bodyguard is his lover
14) the wolf is daedalus4096
15) the afflicted and now new werewolf is girlpurple
16) gpeefalt is probably just a poor villager, please unvote her

Vote Daedalus4096

[info]princeofwands

September 10 2005, 18:51:51 UTC 6 years ago

Nicely done, Sir!

I'd missed the mechanics of the Bodyguard connection while trying to not expose the Lovers, but you're quite right - scrambling for the afflicted before taking out the confessed bodyguard exposes that pair.

(Another point to confirm - of the 153 possible lover combinations, most of them have been eliminated as possible through voting or deaths. If you remove [info]parzanese and I from consideration, and verify that the three remaining suspects have all voted for one another at one time or another -- well, how many options have you got left?)

The only remaining reason you have to doubt either of us is if we've been collaborating as wolves - unlikely since 1) one of us would have to have been turned last night and 2) as Cupid, I can confirm the identities of the Lovers as [info]daedalus4096 and [info]hungryandhollow.

And to [info]flipperchaz's question about the Masons - there are only nine of us left in the game right now, with Cupid, Hunter, Bodyguard, and a Witch identified, we're left with two Masons and three suspects. I don't think it can actually be spelled out any more clearly than that without spelling it out...


UNVOTE [info]gpeefalt
VOTE [info]daedalus4096

I agree with the suspicion that [info]girlpurple is the likely afflicted, but it'd based on speculation, and we haven't proof that it isn't [info]gpeefalt. One problem at a time though.

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[info]parzanese

September 10 2005, 17:50:25 UTC 6 years ago

oh and I know the wolves lover will say, but he never told me this or he never hinted that he was a wolf and that I should be killing everyone off . . . my answer to that is that he didn't need to . . . and he wouldn't risk it . . . for even without him telling you that he was a wolf, you would happily go on lynching everyone but him, which is exactly his goal . . . and to the wolf's lover . . . I really am sorry that you picked poorly in your love . . . and I am sorry that you will die when we lynch his furry ass . . . but thanks for protecting me the other night :)

[info]parzanese

September 10 2005, 17:52:03 UTC 6 years ago

oh and if you really hadn't figured it out yet . . . as a powerful, rich, vampiric mayor of a prosperous city called Millers Hollow, of course I'm part of a secret organization of powerful rich evil doers . . . and yes perkyevil is part of it too . . . look at her name for christ sake . . . it has evil written all over it . . . and of course our organization always gets a bad wrap . . .

[info]perkyevil

September 11 2005, 07:00:29 UTC 6 years ago

Yep, we're the Masons.

Yeah, all those evening meetings.....

[info]hungryandhollow

September 10 2005, 22:15:16 UTC 6 years ago

Ok, let's say you're right and daedelus is a wolf. If so, why don't you vote girlpurple tonight, so someone can have the protection of the bodyguard for one more night? I'm still operating as a villager, so I'll be protecting someone tonight. This just plain makes more sense.

1) Parzanese has not been proven to be a villager.
2) It makes no sense to kill the bodyguard when a wolf will still live.
3) Parzanese's suggestion means that you'll kill Daedelus - maybe a wolf, maybe not - and therefore kill me also, losing the last possible person that could save anyone.

For these reasons, you should vote girlpurple. For all we know, the afflicted could be Parzanese. Maybe I've missed something, but he hasn't been verified as far as I recall.

[info]parzanese

September 10 2005, 23:46:55 UTC 6 years ago

you're grasping at straws now . . .

1) fine I'm a mason . . . duh . . . perkyevil will confirm . . .
2) sure it does, when because of your sexual relations with a wolf, you're bad too (so we have three bad people to deal with) . . . we get two for the price of one now (which means less confusion tomorrow when we only have one to get rid of) . . .
3) even in the remote possibility that we're wrong, there will only be two suspects and two wolves left . . . but it's a remote possibility . . .

and girlpurple will be nice to me and not kill me tonight . . . right girlpurple :)

if it makes you feel better we could all switch our votes to you instead of daedalus? it achieves the same result in the end . . . and girlpurple, despite probably being the afflicted, will probably go along with us too on that one . . .

also odds of you and daedalus picking the same person tonight is pretty slim, and well unlikely considering that you're lovers and all . . . and lets face it, herufeanor didn't leave you, you left him :)

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[info]girlpurple

September 11 2005, 01:54:20 UTC 6 years ago

Rule clarification for our GM

I saw the posting over at Miller's Hollow clarifying the Master Rules Set, and am curious about how the AFFLICTED notification was/is being carried out here.

Is it consistent with the amended Miller's Hollow rules? Or was it handled differently this game, and if so, how?

The point is perhaps moot given the last few comments from parzanese and princeofwands, but I'd like verification that if I HAVE been turned, I won't find out until AFTER today's lynching.

[info]lupusintabula

September 11 2005, 18:32:36 UTC 6 years ago

Re: Rule clarification for our GM

When the Afflicted is activated, the Afflicted is the only one notified. Nice try at clearing your name, but I can neither confirm nor deny whether you have recieved this notification. ;)

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[info]girlpurple

September 11 2005, 01:58:03 UTC 6 years ago

unvote gpeefault vote daedalus4096

[info]daedalus4096

September 11 2005, 05:14:35 UTC 6 years ago

Christ, I step away for one afternoon and I end up on the gallows... Parzanese is right about one thing: Hungryandhollow and myself are the lovers. I believe my reasons for concealing this should be self-evident. As for the stuff about me being a wolf, however, you're way off.

I am not a wolf, but for the sake of argument, let's say for a moment that I am... Why in God's name would I want to trigger the afflicted? That would just be one more wolf I'd have to get rid of while dodging the suspicion of the rest of you. The witch or the hunter would have been a much better target.

If you all are hellbent on lynching me, there doesn't seem to be much left that I can do about it. Until then, I'm going to side with the only person left that seems to believe me.

Unvote Gpeefalt. Vote Girlpurple.

[info]parzanese

September 11 2005, 21:16:22 UTC 6 years ago

dude she voted for you above . . . where'd that belief go? :)

why would you want an afflicted? because it gives you another wolf for the rest of the villagers to hunt down . . . one more person on your side who doesn't know that you're the lover . . . one more valuable ally . . . one more person you can throw to the villagers in order to keep them at bay and you out killing one day longer . . .

if I'm wrong, I apologize, and gpeefalt will pay the price tomorrow . . . but right now, you're my best guess and well a lot of facts just seem to line up against you . . . yes a lot of facts ranging from your claims, your encouragement of the claim game, you're timing of your votes for stride and gnatdbug, the fact that the bodyguard is still alive after outing himself, especially when the wolves probably didn't know he was a lover before making their selection . . .

I'm sorry, just too much points in your direction . . .

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[info]flipperchaz

September 12 2005, 05:24:09 UTC 6 years ago

Unvote gpeefalt
Vote daedalus4096

[info]girlpurple

September 12 2005, 19:07:52 UTC 6 years ago

Lost Lynching....

Anyone seen a missin' lynchin'? The angry mob is restless...

[info]parzanese

September 12 2005, 19:31:39 UTC 6 years ago

Re: Lost Lynching....

hey [info]joelzero get a move on will ya :) we got lynching to do!!

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[info]hungryandhollow

September 12 2005, 21:30:12 UTC 6 years ago

Next round, by God, I'm staying single. I need time to myself, people!
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